10 rounds with the CEO

Interview: Q&A session with JD Wetherspoon's John Hutson

Holly Cook 1 July, 2009 | 11:12AM
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Welcome to our exciting new feature. Starting today, each Wednesday we interview the chief executive of a FTSE 350-listed company, providing you with an insight into how their company is faring the economic downturn, their hopes for the future, and a glimpse into life outside the office. Kickstarting this weekly feature for us today is John Hutson, chief executive of pubs operator JD Wetherspoon.

1. How effectively has your company coped with the recession, and why?
We have performed reasonably well over the last 12 months by working on improving service, the quality and range of items we sell and promoting the value we can offer. In addition, we have benefited from long serving and motivated staff. Around a third of the company’s profits are paid out in bonuses and shares to employees every year and this has helped to ensure that retention levels are the best in the industry. Bonuses are linked to service and standards which provides an incentive to improve the pubs from a customer point of view.

2. How do you think your industry will change in the next 12 months, and what are your plans to take advantage of those changes?
A phenomenon of the last 15 years has been the huge amount of spending on brand new pubs in most towns and cities throughout the UK. Wetherspoon alone has spent almost £1 billion during that period. But this expansion has now slowed almost to a complete halt, with Wetherspoon being one of the very few companies still opening new pubs. A further ‘evolution’ has been that many of the pubs that opened have been sold by the original owners and are now often being sold again for little or no premium to companies that are able and prepared to take on the rental liabilities. This situation provides new expansion opportunities for Wetherspoon that haven’t really existed in the past.

3. What are your immediate priorities for dealing with the downturn?
Carry on doing what we do well and try not to get distracted by the things that we cannot control! Competition remains tough and businesses are working hard to attract trade, but we feel that we have a long-term reputation for offering terrific value for our customers backed up by good service and standards and, whilst we can always improve, feel confident that we will continue to prosper.

4. Can you describe in a nutshell what your long term strategy is?
To grow sales and profits on our existing estate and to open new pubs. We select sites carefully and tend to do deal one pub at a time. Over the long term we are confident that we can grow our estate to 1,200 or more pubs.
     John Hutson, CEO at JD Wetherspoon since 2004.

5. Are acquisitions or divestments likely to play a part in your strategy and if so what area(s) would you be interested in?
As stated above, we are confident that we can continue to grow on an organic basis throughout the UK, taking advantage of an improved property market with the added dynamics of an increasing number of previously owned pubs becoming available at little or no premium. We have no current plans to divest of any pubs, although we continually monitor this.

6. What aspect of your company’s current activities really excites you?
We try to push everything along bit by bit, year after year and avoid big projects. One area where I believe we are starting to make our mark is in improving our efforts with wine. Over the last three or four years our wine festivals have become increasingly popular amongst our customers and, last time around, we had six wines specifically sourced for us from a terrific New Zealand wine maker called Matthew Thompson. He told me that the wines we were offering usually sold at cost what we were retailing them for!

7. Executive compensation is increasingly in the spotlight these days. What’s your philosophy on rewarding your senior level employees?
Our general philosophy in Wetherspoon is that people should be rewarded on performance and responsibility based on merit. The majority of the senior team have been developed and promoted internally and we are fortunate to have good levels of retention throughout the company. Performance-related pay reflects, I believe, shareholder values and focuses on improvements in cash earnings.

8. What’s been the high and low point of your time as CEO?
I’ve been with Wetherspoon for around 19 years and Managing Director or Chief Executive for the last 12 or 13 of those. High points are too numerous to mention although, in recent times, winning the inaugural responsible drinks retailer of the year award (a joint initiative between the Morning Advertiser – a trade publication – and the Home Office) was something that I was very proud of. It demonstrated how seriously we take our obligations as retailers of alcohol and, I think, promoted Wetherspoon as a company trying to take a lead in improving the way pubs do their job in a modern era. And low points? I think everyone has bad days at the office but almost anything can be turned to your advantage if you put your mind to it and when there have been such times, either for me or as a company, that’s what I try to look for.

9. If you lost your job tomorrow and decided to change career, what would you do instead?
Alex Ferguson has to retire eventually and giving the job to someone who once played intramural football at Exeter University could be the sort of left field appointment they should ponder?

10. How do you relax and what are your non-work interests?
Outside of work family is the main event, although I have spent the last five years trying to take up golf. I have managed to get my handicap from 28 down to around 24 in that time. My rate of improvement, should it continue, means I will be scratch by retirement!

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